Stoddart

[stod]

G'day all,

I'm a beginner and new to the site and looking for assistance.

I do believe from my departed grandfather that our family of Stoddarts originated in Fowlis Wester in Perthshire. However my main problem is set out below. I can't go on unless I resolve this issue.

The LDS IGI shows that my g/g/g/grandparents marriage as a double up in dates. They have John Stoddart  m: Mary Brown in Dunblane as both 1811 and 1814.

Q: How would this come about and which one would be correct?
Q: Is there a chance that it is pure coincidence and that there were two couples with the same names ?? ( I doubt it ).

Over and above that I still cannot locate where John Stoddart was born or who his parents were.
Anybody assist with this ????

All the best

Warren Stoddart
NSW Aust.

[PaulineJ]

A case in point about treating the IGI as a guide, not a definitive reference. Check the original record(s). These you should be able to order on film from your LDS centre.

Pauline

[Searching4]

With reference to your questions about two recorded dates for the marriage of your ancestor:  I encountered this as well, and discovered through later readings, that a couple sometimes married TWICE if they were from different parishes - once in the parish of each partner.

I have Stothard ancestors from Crieff, Perthshire, via a distant cousin: Nicola(s) Rose.   She was also born in that area, but her parents emigrated to Australia when she was a young child. Nicolas returned to Scotland (to her maternal g'parents) as a young woman, and later married Wm Stothard.  I wonder if we have a connection with this group?

[aghadowey]

With reference to your questions about two recorded dates for the marriage of your ancestor:  I encountered this as well, and discovered through later readings, that a couple sometimes married TWICE if they were from different parishes - once in the parish of each partner.

Are you sure this is not the banns being read in the parish of bride and groom rather than 2 separate marriage ceremonies?

The LDS IGI shows that my g/g/g/grandparents marriage as a double up in dates. They have John Stoddart  m: Mary Brown in Dunblane as both 1811 and 1814.
Q: How would this come about and which one would be correct?
Q: Is there a chance that it is pure coincidence and that there were two couples with the same names ?? ( I doubt it ).

Always best to look at original record if possible. These seem to be the 2 records you've found- perhaps the year is difficult to read and in one place it's been transcribed as 1811 but in another as 1814.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XY3Q-4QV
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XYWK-7XT

[Searching4]

With reference to your questions about two recorded dates for the marriage of your ancestor:  I encountered this as well, and discovered through later readings, that a couple sometimes married TWICE if they were from different parishes - once in the parish of each partner.

I have Stothard ancestors from Crieff, Perthshire, via a distant cousin: Nicola(s) Rose.   She was also born in that area, but her parents emigrated to Australia when she was a young child. Nicolas returned to Scotland (to her maternal g'parents) as a young woman, and later married Wm Stothard.  I wonder if we have a connection with this group?

Are you sure this is not the banns being read in the parish of bride and groom rather than 2 separate marriage ceremonies?"

With two different ancestral couples, I found separate weddings in differing parishes.  It drove me crazy trying to sort out which record to accept, and how people with exactly the same names could be marrying a few days, or a few weeks apart. When I read about the sometimes custom of marrying twice when marrying outside one's own parish, it finally made sense.

[rosball]

I searched on Scotland's People http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/search/oprmarriage/index.aspx
for a marriage between John Stoddart and Mary Brown in Dunblane.
I got 1 match for a marriage in 1811 and no matches for a marriage in 1814.

regards,
   Ros

I tried Stoddard and any parish in Perth for an 1814 marriage and no match.
And fuzzy matching on Stoddard and any district for an 1814 marriage and no match.

[MonicaL]

Just adding this for reference. Warren's original post was in 2004. He may well have found the answers by now to his original questions....

Monica 

[rosball]

Thanks Monica  I hadn't noticed that.  Such a long time ago.  I had run out of credits on scotlands people but was seriously considering getting more to find out the info on that marriage cert for stod.

cheers,
   Ros